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Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 9 October, 1960 Description An account of the resource Group spent most of this meeting reviewing amended sections of the draft report. Kenneth Barnes brought an invitation for a television appearance which the group decided to postpone until after the report is published. Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/0974ee2f31da9cb817d9c8ab065cf028.jpg a1794efa3d4f77a0aa3b71af64b11b29 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/821f5cf4b49a10b7dc008b20edede3d2.jpg ae4ef787deb40d4c1e90ca3af5c72365 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/c04bbeab08e0cc0f1062c88c31cf5c93.jpg 34c6b9b3da2cc23bd6347cecb8b026d8 Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Text Any textual data included in the document Minutes of the Meeting of the Quaker Group on Homosexuality and Other Problems of Sex, held at the University Women's Club, London, W1., 7th June 1959. 1. Members present: Anna Bidder Richard Fox Kenneth Barnes Mervyn Parry Lotte Rosenberg Keith Wedmore Alastair Heron 2. Apologies received from: Duncan Fairn Alfred Torrie Kenneth Nicholson 3. Minutes: After careful revision by the group, the Minutes of the last meeting were accepted. 4. Business Arising from the Minutes: Anna Bidder reported that Elsa Harman did not feel a concern to meet with the group. Joyce James expressed great interest but was unable to meet with us before November. Marion Fairn has written resigning from the Group and informing us that Joyce James i the new Chairman of the M. & P. We invite Joyce James to become a member of the Group and to join with us in December and thereafter as often as she can. We hope that, as Chairman of M. & P. she will keep us in touch with the work of that committee. The approach to Stephen J. Thorne and Doris Eddington has not yet been made. 5. Discussion on Homosexuality: For the purpose of discussion some categories must be defined. We recognise that these are to some extent arbitrary since grades of homosexuality from a continuous series from 100% heterosexual to 100% homosexual. We find two bases of classification: (a) Personality (b) Behaviour We note that homosexual behaviour does not invariably indicated that the person is a real homosexual and as such incurable. Nor is apparently heterosexual behaviour always an indication of 100% heterosexual leanings. Outward behaviour may be opposed to unconscious trend. It is therefore difficult to determine whether homosexual behaviour in a person is curable. We first considered situations in which homosexuality is creative: "xxxxxxxxx Eros" the importance of homosexuality in the male teacher of males (schoolmaster, college tutor). Is the value of this dependent on the absence of complete physical relationship? The teacher has a primary responsibility towards the well-being of the pupil. It is difficult to see how this can be rightly fulfilled if the teacher uses a pupil for the purpose of personal satisfaction, either intellectually, emotionally or physically, whether this is done consciously or unconsciously. This situation also applies to the relation between doctor and patient and in any situation of responsible leadership. When, between two people, a great difference of ages, experience or prestige exists, an analogous responsibility rests upon the older or more mature. All this applies equally to hetero- and homosexual relationships. In considering women teachers, we find that the parental impulse may be so strong that the homosexual side is less important, but we find that parental impulse can also be a valuable factor in men teachers. We find it difficult to distinguish between the maternal or paternal, or to be certain what is the relation between parental and homosexual feelings--we feel this problem calls for further study by us. We see that the relation will be affected by the gender and temperament of the individual and by the social pressure of the environment. In considering the teacher-pupil relationship we recognise a different emotional climate as between younger teen-age boys and girls, and consider that the emotional disturbance of this period is more over in girls than in boys that that freer expression has become permissible in both during the course of the last generation. This different between boys and gifts must affect the qualities most needed for teaching each. We suggest for further consideration the possibility that latent homosexual and parental feelings can each be valuable in a man teaching boys, but that latent homosexuality in a woman teaching girls may be a hindrance rather than a help and that parental feeling is here of primary value. To assist further discussion of the creative aspect of homosexuality at our next meeting, we formulate the following questions: i) do we think it is desirable that society should have some homosexuals, or is the ideal society heterosexual only? We are all agreed that the heterosexual relationship in marriage transcends in human importance any homosexual relationship. We also all accept that homosexuals have the right to loyal and permanent relationships and that these may be of creative value for themselves and for society. We agree that the heterosexual partnership has qualities which are not to be found in the homosexual and we ask ourselves ii) What is the difference between a homosexual and heterosexual partnership, when there is an intention of permanence in each case? Has the homosexual partnership also something to offer which the heterosexual cannot offer? iii) What has the homosexual individual to offer society? Are homosexuals a good element which should exist in an ideal society, or is their best value to society the result of God's redemptive power working in a situation which is basically no ideal? We hope members of the Groups will be able to give some thought to these problems before our next meeting on September 6th. The meeting will be held at the University Women's Club, 2 Audley Square, W.1. (signed) Anna Bidder P.S. The name and address of Kenneth Nicholson was omitted on the list of members: Kenneth Nicholson, Robins Acre, Saffron Walden, Essex. Tel: Saffron Walden 2122. The address of new member, Joyce James, will be given later. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 7 June 1959 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers Description An account of the resource Group discussed invitations to join the group (Joyce James added); discussed what known and understood about homosexuality and when it might be creative; affirmed higher value of heterosexual partnerships and asked what value can be seen in homosexual relationships. https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/cbe9043fa7ad2e28de15a80f0838e837.jpg 76ba06a6aa5acd5d24c1826dedb1a6b7 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/2489aa4ef98b82e76e76225ca4336414.jpg 03739a98834810fe7db99c35bd30fff4 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/71c6cc6205b8b0fc244c9e3910e68298.jpg ad8d1fb4c3b527c0fc245d5e0936da3f https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/1b7b08e6efb46595c846d410e52c6d3a.jpg c92e434b456ad18141376574aa84ade2 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/95a13cf29924aeb5d54d6d577da1adb5.jpg 39f161a03ad1a03053a342f827f10e40 Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Text Any textual data included in the document The Quaker Group on Homosexuality and Other Problems of Sex Meeting held 6th September 1959 at the University Women's Club, 2 Audley Square, London W.1. Members present: Kenneth Barnes Kenneth Nicholson Lotte Rosenberg Alfred Torrie Anna Bidder Apologies for absence: Alastair Heron Mervyn Parry Richard Fox Keith Wedmore Duncan Fairn 1. The minutes were approved. 2. The attached letter from Stephen Thorne was read. It was agreed to send him and Doris Eddington the file of our minutes for meetings held in 1959. The hope was expressed by all that these two Friends would feel able to meet with us in October or, failing that, in December, and that they would be able to share the whole day with us so as to join in our Meeting for Worship. It should be pointed out that minutes represent the course of our thinking, not joint decision, and that any generalities must be misleading. 3. Dates of Meetings It was felt that the three month gap which had elapsed since our last meeting was too long and should be avoided next year. It was agreed that we should try at our October meeting to fix the dates for next year. 4. Chairman Anna Bidder announced that she expected to be out of England on a Sabbatical Year from the end of August 1960 to July 1961 so that a change of chairman would be necessary during the coming year. 5. Approach to Society of Friends: We recalled our minutes of 3.5.59. It was re-emphasized that, when we seek to lay our concern before the Society of Friends, we do not offer a revised moral code, nor "Findings"--we would present ourselves as a research group and lay before the Society some of the questions which have presented themselves to us as challenges. We might even cast these in a form suitable for study groups of concerned Friends up and down the country. It will probably seem right to put first before Friends our initial concern for the problems of young people and for the male homosexual imprisoned by ostracism and the present legal position. We have many times agreed that these factors make it easy for a young man with homosexual tendencies to become embedded in a homosexual society, and hard for him to once so entangled to extricate himself. It is important to recognise that homosexuality can be a real and bitter problem to men and women of high integrity leading good Christian lives. We believe that Friends will respond with a liberal sympathy to this problem and that lack of knowledge is the chief problem in this field. We should then make it clear that considering these problems has led us to wider consideration of problems of sexual morality. We have learnt to seek an approach to all human action that assesses it in the light of the will of God rather than in the light of man-made codes: "Except your righteousness exceed the righteousness of the scribes and pharisees..." We are told that Friends who are parents of adolescents are likely to welcome the opportunity to discuss general problems of the Christian attitude towards sexual morality. We note that the Society has not to our knowledge reconsidered its attitude towards these for many decades, although implications of many other social problems have been often under discussion. We should present the problems as one of human relationships and have the greatest tenderness towards the minority in the Society who have a restricted view on problems of sex. 6. Our afternoon session has been devoted to the questions posed at the end of our last meeting on the value of the homosexual to society, and to a comparison of male and female homosexuality. 7. With regard to the first, we find it impossible to make any answer, since we are made increasingly aware of the immense number of different human situations and problems covered by the term "homosexual". Many artists--actors, dancers and musicians--are homosexuals, but this may not always be due to the same cause, but to either temperament, upbringing or "fashion" in a particular circle. Any fine relationship of affection is of benefit to society, whatever the sex and age of the individuals concerned. We subscribe on the whole to the last clause of our minutes of last time. We have received evidence that homosexuality only very rarely is inborn. A great number of varieties of relationship are lumped under the name homosexuality. We should avoid anything that makes a person into a homosexual. In the creation God planned male and female. In the ideal society we should not wish to have 100% homosexuals or 100% heterosexuals, either would be a weakness and not an asset because they would be limited as personalities and in their personal contribution to society. Whatever a person has within him, whatever tendencies and limitations, something good can come from it by the grace of God, but that does not imply that God had planned it. 8. We have received a long document giving the outlook of a pair of women homosexuals and agreed that parts of this should be typed and circulated for our next meeting. We discussed the differences between male and female homosexuality. There does not seem to be group homosexuality or promiscuity amongst girls as it is observed in boys. For a woman homosexual the maternal aspect is a vital part of her relationship, She can achieve sexual satisfaction without abandoning her female role, while in the case of male homosexuals one of the partners takes on a role which is contrary to his innate being. The apparent masculinity in a woman may be a protective maternal attitude. Women often some to homosexuality later than men and after failure in heterosexual relationships. Many of these women are quite conscious of their homosexual relationships being only a second best. The male homosexual more often comes to his attitude as a first choice and at a younger age. Often he is influenced in this choice by a fear of taking the initiative with a woman, while a woman is not required to take the initiative. Summary of our discussion: We consider that homosexuality is a term that covers many human situations and relationships, and its use, therefore, may affix a label that does not take record of a person's real value. We do not believe the God planned the homosexual attitude as a specific type of human relationship and our aim should be to avoid anything that may make a person into a homosexual. The value of anybody, in our view, does not depend on him being either heterosexual or homosexual. It is important what a person does with the condition in which he finds himself placed. A difference between male and female homosexuality is noted and in many cases a woman can remain true to her female role in a homosexual relationship, while the male homosexual often has to take on a role which is not in accord with his inner being as a man. 9. We see our work now as having two streams: (a) to set down the result of our thinking up to date. (b) to continue our exploration. In the course of both we feel that subjects requiring specialist research may become defined of a kind for which we are not equipped but which others may wish to take up. Date of next meeting: Sunday, 4th October, 10:30 a.m. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 6 Sept 1959 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers Description An account of the resource Bidder announced 1960-61 sabbatical requiring another chair of group; discussed approach to Friends--not to present moral code or finding, but to enable dialogue and learning; continued discussion of value of homosexuality in society and comparison of male and female homosexuality. Letter appended from two lesbians. https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/102cb16322df05030b8fb7d39879f100.jpg 5cb3aaf11f496a49f830387c86ea9bd5 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/a45be4e44fd779caba6908943f61d1d5.jpg dd3be6ed11d76e238557a0702a51a086 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/370b7094753b551dcb35244f70f2230c.jpg dd36ce9913b9f4bebe6752d2a5a1cf23 Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 6 March 1960 Description An account of the resource Committee agreed to produce a lengthy informative pamphlet, a first draft to be reviewed at the June conference. Group reviewed agenda for the conference as well as whom to invite. Draft of letter to The Friend circulated for comments. Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/efccd5baab40f9f72ae3979152d977b8.jpg 492cd6331c86e94d30d239c0be5c3f5a https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/c43a1ca611fca02da90bba04db54592a.jpg 09403afa1550ad81427d323b2c10cfc6 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/231774de9873aef7eb80b1a48cc2526b.jpg ebaa9660267b03ec3c909788b223d025 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/93e8e6f19a6093d8094e979fab8a25e3.jpg 2b3c81cdaf39edee9f6b8ee267ef8b9f Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Text Any textual data included in the document Quaker Group on Homosexuality and Other Problems of Sex Meeting held on 6th December 1959 1. Present: Anna Bidder Duncan Fairn Mervyn Parry Keith Wedmore Alastair Heron Joyce James Alfred Torrie Richard Fox Doris Eddington Stephen Thorne Apologies: Kenneth Barnes Kenneth Nicholson 2. Minutes. With two small corrections the minutes were accepted. 3. In discussion with Doris Eddington and Stephen Thorne we considered how our concern can best be brought before the Society of Friends. Comments are invited invited from Doris Eddington and Stephen Thorne. Anna Bidder says that we feel our concern is for the moral and spiritual imprisonment of the homosexual. We see as our function: (a) research, (b) the task to lay our concern before the Society of Friends. We see the possibility of (i) presenting our concern to the Meeting for Sufferings, (ii) writing to THE FRIEND, (iii) offering a speaker and offering a study-outline, which Eric Baker had suggested might be sent out by the Home Service Committee. As a group we are not liberated from existence until we have gone a further stage in making our concern known. Stephen Thorne summarised our position in approximately these terms: It is clear that the approach of the group has gone beyond the local problems of Cambridge students. It seems that the discussion has become more general and is concerned with wider issues. What is the end of the group's project? This concern extends beyond the Society of Friends. It may be right to have contact with groups from other Christian bodies with the same concerns. He was interested in the group's contact with the Marriage and Parenthood Committee, and the suggestion made by Eric Baker mentioned above. He was not sure that the Home Service Committee was the right link; he would rather think of the Marriage and Parenthood Committee and the Penal Reform Committee. He did not think it clearly advisable to link with the Temperance and Moral Welfare Committee because of its primary concern with temperance. The Marriage and Parenthood Committee seems uncertain regarding its purpose in the Society of Friends because it is a specialised committee concerned with a restricted aspect of the problems of sexual morality and finds its interpretation to the Society of Friends difficult. This is a similar problem to the one facing the group. Many of the problems are not normally seen as deriving from the religious way of life. The relationship of the group to its own meeting is an interesting test. How far could individual members of the group draw their own Meeting into contact with the group? If this is not possible, the implications for the Society of Friends have to be realised. On the periphery of the Society of Friends there is a great deal of activity which it is difficult to bring inside the Society. Possibly through THE FRIEND or better THE FRIENDS' QUARTERLY the concern could be brought to a wider group, including an invitation to a conference that would be testing the wider interest. An approach to Meeting for Sufferings is doubtful, though individual approaches have been made and produced a useful concern. It is, however, doubtful whether the concern could be brought to Meeting For Sufferings unless through the Penal Reform, Marriage and Parenthood or the Home Service Committee, or through a Quarterly Meeting. A concern brought by an individual group would probably be handed on to another group and not back to its originator. The Penal Reform Committee is weak and it is doubtful whether it could deal with the problem. Doris Eddington said that is would be advisable to get a wider contact with other groups before making an approach to the Society of Friends. Stephen Thorne considered it possible that the Overseers' Meeting at Y.M. might invite discussion on this problem. This might be one way to bring the concern to a larger group of Friends and could provide a way to suggesting to Y.M. that a further report, published by the Overseers, Penal Reform or Marriage and Parenthood Committee or by Yearly Meeting might be invited. Keith Wedmore remarked that people took a moral code for granted. We are concerned that people should revise their moral code. During the discussion it was said that toleration can be indifference. The Society needs to understand what is meant by pastoral responsibility. We need to re-capture our duty to make a contribution to our group and to people outside. Anna Bidder said that pastoral responsibility to our own members is an important duty, and equally our responsibility as modern people to those outside the Society of Friends. Stephen Thorne said that we took for granted too easily that we were concerned with prison reform as a Society of Friends. The Penal Reform Committee is disappointing. Meeting after lunch: members only were present 4. Finance. It is agreed that Keith Wedmore should approach Christopher Holdsworth, as a Trustee of the Joseph Rowntree Trust, to see whether a grant could be made from their funds towards the group's expenses. Keith Wedmore undertook a re-assessment of the contribution due from members of the group. 5. Further Plans. In discussing the suggestion made by Stephen Thorne and Doris Eddington, most members felt a difficulty in approaching their own Meetings directly. The Penal Reform Committee does not appear to have a strong impact on the Society, but we feel it should be approached. We agreed on the following programme: (i) We ask A.B. to invite two members of the FTU to attend our next meeting on January 31st. (ii) We invite two members of the Penal Reform Committee on March 6th. (iii) To hold further meetings on May 1st or 8th and in July and September. We also note that the FTU is organising a conference in April to which it might be right to send representatives. The letter to headmasters was considered as a basis of approach to these bodies. We feel it necessary to have a group judgment to offer these groups. We agree to change our name to "A Quaker Group..." [section missing] ...of Friends about the social problems of sex and we feel that unless this is recognised the consequences to the spiritual life of the Society can become very serious. We feel that the time is right to start preparing a draft for the FRIENDS QUARTERLY EXAMINER. We ask Duncan Fairn and Richard Fox to collaborate in making a draft which Alastair Heron will edit, to be submitted to us for general but not detailed criticism at our next meeting or when ready. Our next meeting will be on Sunday, January 31st at 10.30 a.m. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. 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Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Text Any textual data included in the document The Quaker Group on Homosexuality and Other Problems of Sex Minutes of Meeting held on October 5th, 1958 1. Apologies for Absence. Kenneth Barnes Kenneth Nicholson Marion Fairn Alastair Heron. 3. Minutes of last meeting, 10th September, are taken as read. After discussion we agreed the name for the group given at the head of these Minutes. 4. Reports. Anna bidder has reported on the meeting which she and Kenneth Nicholson had with the Central Committee of Young Friends: There is a wide range of outlook among Young Friends. Some had personal experience of homosexuality and would welcome a meeting with this group. Others felt that this matter was outside the concern of Young Friends. The Central Committee is prepared to send representatives to our meeting on the 7th December. Lotte Rosenberg is asked to write to the Clerk of the Central Committee and, when names of representatives have been received, she will invite them. A group of London Friends is concerning themselves with part II of the Wolfenden Report. We think it advisable to get into contact with them. Anna Bidder will write to Mary Harper, a member of that group as well as of the central Committee of Young Friends and she will ask her to join us on the 7th December. 5. Discussion of our Approach to Young Friends We shall state our concern and then ask Young Friends to give their opinion. One of the main problems of the homosexual is his belief that he is the only deviant although in fact the problem of homosexuality will concern each generation. The Young Friend faced with homosexuality believing himself the only person so afflicted feels isolated from the Society of Friends and therefore the whole problem never reaches beyond the individual case. In meeting Young Friends we aim at exploring the situation confronting them. 6. Discussion of the Questionnaire (a draft questionnaire by Lotte Rosenberg is considered.) We should omit any question referring to the person's own personal life, but concentrate on general questions. Although we wish to receive information regarding sexual problems arising in Quakerism it is better tactics to commence with such questions that relate to Quaker concerns for the wider world. There are two approaches: (a) sexual problems arising in Quakerism, (b) The Quaker attitude towards problems arising in the wider society. It is with the latter approach that we think it best to begin. We wonder whether Quakers have a blind spot for problems of sex, for the interest shown is much less than the energy and resources which are given to the solution of other social troubles. We wonder whether Quakers would find it difficult to reveal their own childhood experiences, but they can, without such inhibition, give their opinion regarding the importance of children experiences in general. In our formulation of the questions we shall need to take consideration of the specific blind spots of Quakerism. "Remember then that are in bonds, as bound with them"; those words, spoken during our Meeting for Worship, could be accepted as our motto. 7. Young Friends Groups Some detailed consideration was given to the form of the questions to be put to the Young Friends Group and Duncan Fairn was asked to submit the following draft for Anna Bidder to use in writing to the Group: "I think you know that some of us have been meeting from time to time, largely as a result of the publication of the Wolfenden Report and the experience some of us have had, especially in University towns, in an attempt to make a fresh analysis of the ethics and morals of the whole field of sexual relationships for us as Christians and Quakers. We want to take nothing for granted by to get back to the very beginning, with such questions as what acts and relationships do we consider wrong and why? As we hope that you and some of your colleagues will meet with us at our next meeting on December 7th at the University Women's Club, 2 Audley Square, London, W.1.,we wonder whether you would help us by considering the following questions and let us know what your views are: (1) Do you consider that Young friends are faced with problems of sex in the same way as other young people? (2) If so, please state what the problems are. (3) Have you found (a) your local Meeting (b) individual Friends helpful to those Young Friends who have sexual problems, for example, whether between boy and girl, between those of the same sex and also of couples before and after marriage? (4) Do you feel that Friends are to hide-bound in their attitude towards sex? If so, in what respects? (5) Do you find that the attitude of Friends Schools has been especially helpful in these problems? 8. As promised last time the memorandum from Keith Wedmore following the first meeting of the Group, is attached. 9. Agenda for next meeting The next meeting will take place on Sunday, 7th December, at 10:30 at the University Women's Club, 2 Audley Square, W.1. Morning Session: (a) Report of the discussion at the Marriage and Parenthood Committee (Marion Fairn and Anna Bidder). (b) Preparations of questions which will shall address to headmasters of Friends Schools. 16 Back Street, St. Cross, WINCHESTER, Hants. MEMORANDUM FROM KEITH WEDMORE The Invert and Society "Love is all of one piece--from the love of mother and child to the love of sweethearts, husbands and wives, and friends. It is present, too, in the Labourer's devotion to his work, in the teacher's solicitude for her pupils, in the physicians's dedication to his art. All that heals, cultivates, protects and inspires--all this is a part of Love." --foreword to Dr. Bainton's "Love or Perish" "Deus est Caritas, qui menet in Caritate menet in Deo, et Deus in illo. Sic Deus in nohis, et nos maneamus in Illo." --the Grace of Jesus College, Cambridge All relationships involve some kind of bridge between personalities, the establishment of a link with the unknown and the different in somebody else. Where there is much traffic across this bridge, it flows familiarly and freely; where the intercourse is small and infrequent, it is more hesitant and uncertain. Sometimes nobody has ever crossed the bridge; and then, perhaps, when somebody does start, the fear of the unknown that is deep within us makes them turn back. "Nobody can cross that bridge," they say, and talk of turbulent waters, and cold foreign shores that nobody would wish to visit. This is the structure of much of the failure of society, this failure of human relationships, and the pattern is basically the same where ever we look; in race relations, or those between nations, or between society and the delinquents is produces. The super freedom of modern life gives us a swirling turbulent background, its failure is a failure to relate. Many retreat from the struggle into the mental home; others express their uncertainty in aggression: "Here, Joe, there's a stranger; heave half a brick at him". The problem of the invert is just part of this larger problem of society, and in no wise divisible from it. For the problem of the invert is not a propensity to love his fellow men; for if love is a good thing, one cannot have too much of it; no, the problem is a small chunk of that larger problem, a failure to relate: in this case, with the opposite sex. When that exists, with the noncomitant necessity to find all the satisfactions that relationships can offer among one's own kind, then there is a breach of that communion which God intended to exist among all his creatures. Most people learn the pattern of love that they will follow all their life, while they are still children, from their parents and friends. A deep and proper closeness with each parent will give them an awareness of each sex, and an ability to relate with it; and a successful dependence, at the learning stage of life, on other males and females--such as brothers and sisters--starts that confidence in dealing with others including that familiarity with getting close to them and receiving love from them, which should last the rest of their years. Early failures to relate upset this pattern, and continue to do so until they are recognised. The homosexual shys away from the woman's love--suppose it can nothing for him--and often, oddly enough, that he has too much already. For often his mother appears doting and possessive, or in such relationships as he has, it seems to be that he goes no further. But the truth may often be, not that he cannot love women, but that no woman ever loved him; once the total absence of what is apparently having to be rejected can be realised, then a change in attitude can be brought about. A person needs love; if he does not like it, either it is not love, or his ability to receive it is impaired, as, for example, by not having had it before. In this situation, little is to be done by expelling boys from boarding schools, where usually what is going on is a more sharing of physical experience; nor may such real relationships as are formed here or in later life be profitably attacked; firstly because, ex hypothesis, they are all a man has and, secondly, because, oddly enough, they may be a way to his salvation. A deep and satisfactory relationships with either sex (and disturbed people often have had very few) helps in later relationships with each, for Love is Indivisible, and where it gains strength here, is the better able to wander on elsewhere. This is the basis of the problem, this the root, the other aspects, merely symptoms, often connected with the other problems of society. Only therapy may help some individuals, in whom long loneliness grow a despair which carried off the bridge, or made its passage seem uncommon, perilous; and only education and patience may help society, with its ignorance and fear, its offer of suspicion not love, and its concentration limited o the bits of the problem it can see. Does a person get lost in a fog through following others at random? The society supposes that the best answer would be to blindfold him altogether. But this is not the case. People have to see and follow better, not worse, and so fine a surer passage, and a more sturdy bridge, into the lands occupied by their neighbours, and into that fellowship which lives in loving and knowing one other person well. New York City 4 September 1956 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 5 Oct 1958 Description An account of the resource The group affirmed their name; members reported on their activities; discussion about how best to get input from Young Friends; memo attached that Wedmore wrote in 1956--The Invert and Society. Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/c9ab16697c636e691fa90185ebc4c7b2.jpg 9ac28f21c98800fd29c0aad47f5cf229 Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 4 September 1960 Description An account of the resource Group spent most of the meeting reviewing and revising the draft of the pamphlet. Responded to request for speaker from the Essex and Suffolk Quarterly Meeting. Anna Bidder urged group to be strong in its resolve as she departed for extended time abroad. Duncan Fairn replaced her as chair. Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/42b4c74f83e193e13c3b8f241dae2131.jpg 029c0240d98e208cf959b7fbabcf37f7 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/044f3c595b4b40da1060398fddcca37a.jpg 4bae50fb4a886cf1f32da2cab4df4f73 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/e627343d11ccf1413be0c3efbadb0f7d.jpg c64da9edcece5aca29413cdb2cdb82c2 Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Text Any textual data included in the document The Quaker Group on Homosexuality and Other Problems of Sex Meeting held 4th October 1959 at the University Women's Club, 2 Audley Square, London W.1. During our Meeting for Worship, we were grateful for the Prayer of St. Francis:- "O Lord, make us instruments of thy peace Where there is hatred let us sow love, Where there is injury, pardon; Where there is darkness, light; Where there is sorrow, joy; Where there is doubt, faith; And where there is despair, hope. O Divine Master, let us not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood as to understand; to be loved as to love. For it is giving that we receive It is in forgiving that we are pardoned And it is in dying that we are born to everlasting life." Members present: Kenneth Barnes Anna Bidder Richard fox Duncan Fairn Alastair Heron Kenneth Nicholson Mervyn Parry Lotte Rosenberg Keith Wedmore Apologies: Alfred Torrie 1. Finance: It was agreed to start, on the basis of voluntary contributions, a Bursary Fund, so that members and guests for whom the expenses of our meetings are a burden can receive assistance. Keith Wedmore undertook to receive and administer the fund and to handle the pooling of fares. 2. Correspondence: Letters were read from Eric Baker and Stephen Thorne. The Chairman was authorized to tell Eric Baker of our concern. The group regretted that a long-standing engagement prevented Stephen Thorne from attending that day and hoped very much that he and Doris Eddington would be with us on December 6th for our time of worship, morning session and lunch. In considering a possible link with Meeting for Sufferings, it was felt to be important that we should continue the present phase of our work on our existing basis of membership and not on individual appointment by Meeting for Sufferings. We look forward to the advice of these two Friends on this and other problems. 3. Minutes: The minutes were revised, approved and signed. 4. The remainder of both sessions was devoted to defining some of the points which we feel must be included in any statement by which we may make our concern known. In our discussion we referred repeatedly to the valuable document submitted by the two women friends X and Y. We first considered long-term homosexual relationships. The following points emerged:-- (i) We find no crime or sin necessarily inherent in love between two men or two women finding physical expression of a sexual character. (ii) This understood, we recognise that in such relationships a fine affection is often combined with a passion which must be frustrating because it cannot be satisfied, for the partners are seeking something which the relationships cannot provide. This is due partly to its own nature, partly to the setting in society. (a) the Nature of the Relationship We fine that there may be an over-emphasis on the value of passion for its own sake. The outgoing and giving element may then be subservient in the search for self-gratification. This can result in a restless changing of partners, and these changing partnerships are often associated with bitterness and jealousy and frustration within the partnerships and the social groups in which they take place. An over-emphasis on passion can also be found in hetero-sexual relationships but in these it can be replaced by the permanent and creative relationship of marriage, and the restless search for an ideal of self-gratification become reduced in its effect by the setting of family life. We find this well-expressed by what was said to one of us:-- "It is such fun being married and it is quite different from being in love." (b) The Effect of the Setting in Society Social forces tend to hold a marriage together. The same forces make the dissolution of homosexual partnerships easy. The effect of public opinion on these partnerships is clearly a very complex problems, however, and we cannot at present assess it. (iii) We realise that we shall probably always have the problem of the homosexual with us: what is the constructive attitude towards it? A Christian redemptive attitude is required which recognises that no human experience need be a dead loss; whether it is or not may depend upon how an individual is helped through an experience by the community. We accept homosexuality without necessarily condoning and we seek the imaginative compassion which re-integrates the homosexual into the community. Would not this attitude towards homosexuality diminish rather than increase its incidence? We recognise that this attitude amongst us is the result of over a year of disciplined search for understanding. For us in this group it has been a moving experience to find that we can approach the problems together with a scientific and objective approach which puts aside pre-conceived moral judgments but rests on a faith in the possibility of discovering the Will of God. (iv) In presenting our concern to the Society we shall have both to offer a factual picture and an attitude of mind. We must make clear our exercise in achieving this. (The last part of these minutes record discussion occurring when three or four only remained.) The date of the next meeting is:- Sunday, 6th December 10.30 a.m. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 4 Oct 1959 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers Description An account of the resource Group agreed to subsidize travel costs of participants as needed; continued to try to develop link with the Meeting for Sufferings; spent considerable time identifying key points of a statement they could issue; affirmed importance of this group meeting, exploring and learning together over many months. https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/62e74bcb99a4691c336c0ec585a46399.jpg 448cf37355711494e2c59a99ee9f1bec Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 4 December, 1960 Description An account of the resource Most of meeting devoted to amending sections of the report and assigning members to revise sections for the next meeting. Keith Wedmore reported on financial underwriting for the group's work. Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/3aaa6051ce8375c1636dc6edab60fe30.jpg 4be4637188f5c3fe096ae38620f359f9 https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/f26c26b713bdb7c7bff1295aaeb2d662.jpg fa492113c9af2deb02e9c69b1bb8aa2e Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 30 January 1960 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore papers Description An account of the resource Cecil Heath and Mary Holden from the Friends Temperance and Moral Welfare Union discussed strategies for addressing homosexuality at the Yearly Meeting. Committee agreed to hold a one-day conference in June with selected guests and to publish a letter in The Friend. Also proposed title "Towards a Quaker View of Sex." https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/98128616cdf2c1818940bf9707465a77.jpg 91db54ed1d70298c7392f63fb38987f3 Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Text Any textual data included in the document The Quaker Group on Homosexuality and other Problems of Sex Chairman: Duncan Fairn Secretary: Lottie Rosenberg, 16 Beck Street, St. Cross, Winchester, Hants. Meeting held 29th January 1961 at the University Women's Club, London W.1. Members present: Kenneth Barnes Kenneth Nicholson Mervyn Parry Alastair Heron Joyce James Keith Wedmore Richard Fox Duncan Fairn Alfred Torrie Lotte Rosenberg Absent: Anna Bidder, but we were specially glad to have Alfred Torrie back again and to receive his counsel. 1. The minutes of the last meeting were read and accepted. 2. Duncan Fairn read a letter sent to George Gorman by a friend, containing comments on Keith Wedmore's draft-outline. Keith will consider these comments and they will be discussed at a later meeting. 3. The remaining part of the meeting was taken up with discussion and amendment of the draft-outline submitted by Richard Fox. This comprised:-- Part V. PErversions, and Part VI. Origins of Sexual Behaviour. 4. The draft-outline prepared by Kenneth Barnes on Heterosexuality has been sent to members. Kenneth Barnes would welcome comments on this draft--outline as soon as possible. 5. The dates of the next meetings are as follows:-- Sunday 26th February 10:30 a.m. Sunday 23rd April 10:30 a.m Friday 19th May 12:30 p.m. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 29 January 1961 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers Description An account of the resource Group begins discussion of draft-outlines submitted by members Wedmore, Fox and Barnes. https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/cb379a04f53a8fb4f4bd697e48d820f9.jpg 0a9e2984f23a53ba0ef52aa98b4d45fe https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/297cfe38f5396289792c559e9fd02b08.jpg 9ac1230f9fb3d4116d44720cd0a08216 Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Text Any textual data included in the document The Quaker Group on Homosexuality and Other Problems of Sex Minutes of Meeting held November 26th at the University Women's Club, London, W.1. Present: Richard Fox Anna Bidder Joyce James Alastair Heron Mervyn Parry Keith Wedmore Alfred Torrie Lotte Rosenberg Duncan Fairn Apologies for Absence: Kenneth Nicholson Kenneth Barnes 1. Points arising from par. 6 of last meeting's minutes:-- to 6.d) Duncan Fairn reported abouut his discusson with George Gorman. It was thought best for us to publish independently of the Home Service Committee. to 6.e) We asked Keith Wedmore to make a preliminary approach to the publishers Cedric Davies and Duckworth, showing the revised Table of Contents. to 6.f) The names of Isobel Wilson and Russel W. Brain were mentioned as possible writers of a preface. to 6.g) Duncan Fairn, reported that the Home Service Committee would be able to hold any funds in trust for this group, without curtailing our freedom of using them according to our plans. 2. Alastair Heron read the Table of Contents prepared by him. In discussing them we agreed that some chapters of the draft required enlargement. This would also serve to enlarge the whole work from booklet size to a more marketable book-size. 3. Alfred Torrie was asked, together with Richard Fox, to enlarge the section on masturbation. 4. In discussing the section "How Help Can be Given" we considered the possible readership:-- a) Elders, Overseers and others who want to help eople in need and are seeking knowledge of facts. b) People who may be stirred to think about the problems constructively. c) People in need who are seeking advice and information, olrder as well as younger ones. 5. The draft on Female Homosexuality was discussed and Richard Fox undertook to amend it. 6. The draft on "Towards a Quaker View of Sex", prepared by Duncan Fairn, was discussed and amended. It was thought that parts of this chapter should be considered together with that on "Constructive Thinking." 7. We agreed to discuss the drafting of the remaining parts of the revised Table of Contents at our next meeting. Table of Contents 1. Foreword 2. Introduction a) Origins of the Inquiry b) How the group came to be formed c. Initial assumptions. Where did we start our thinking from. d) Clear statement of our working objectives. What were we trying to do-- 3. Normal sexual development 4. Homosexuality a) Introduction b) Ground clearance c) Male Homosexuality d) Female Homosexuality 5. Homosexuality and the Law 6. Homosexuality and Society 7. Heterosexuality 8. How help can be given Appendices 1. Origins of sexual behaviour 2. Some deviations considered 3. Selected reading list Index Dates of next meetings: Sunday, 10th December Sunday, 28th January Sunday, 1st April Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 26 November 1961 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers Description An account of the resource The group started discussing options for publication, refined the Table of Contents and continued discussion of different sections. https://exhibits.lgbtran.org/files/original/66275ca2507ef3208256f0ea16c3a2c1.jpg 872e10696a5b80b3c7746dad944a5fb1 Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Text Any textual data included in the document Quaker Group on Homosexuality Minutes of meeting held Feb. 26th at Womens University Club W.1. Present: Kenneth Barnes, Alastair Heron, Keith Wedmore, Lotte Rosenberg. Absent: Kenneth Nicholson, Mervyn Parry, Joyce James, Duncan Fairn, Alfred Torrie, Richard Fox. 1. Keith Wedmore reports that he has written to the Joseph Rountree Trust. The Trust will consider the application for a further grant at their next meeting. 2. The remaining part of the draft outline, Park Six, prepaed by Richard Fox, was discussed and amended. The amended draft will be sent to Richard Fox and he will be asked to make some alterations where these are indicated. Richard Fox will be asked to send the amendments to Kenneth Barnes by the middle of March. 3. The draft outline on Heterosexuality, prepared by Kenneth Barnes, was discussed and amended. 4. Discussion and amendment of the draft outline on Homosexuality, prepared by Keith Wedmore, were commenced. 5. Next Meetings are to be: Sunday, 23rd April 10:30 a.m. Friday, 19th May, 12:30 p.m. both at University Women's Club W.1. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Meeting Minutes, 26 February 1961 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Keith Wedmore Papers Description An account of the resource Group continues discussing and amending draft-outlines submitted by Fox, Barnes and Wedmore.